Los Chupacabras: The Interview - Part I
Is this a photo of a Chupacabra
by Lucy Plá
Lucy: Good morning. My name is Lucy Plá and my companion is José Manuel Rodríguez.
MT: Good morning. My name is Madelyne Tolentino Maldonado.
Lucy: What's the name of this neighborhood?
MT: Barrio Campo Rico in Canóvanas, P.R.
Lucy: On what day did you see the Chupacabras?
MT: Sometime around the second week of August 1995.
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An interview with Ms. Madelyne Tolentino and her husband, Mr. José Miguel Agosto, conducted by Lucy Plá and José Manuel Rodríguez of the Puerto Rican Research Group, on March 20th, 1996 in Canóvanas, Puerto Rican.
Lucy: At what time?
MT: Approximately 4:00 p.m.
Lucy: Where was the creature?
MT: Facing my mother's house.
Note: Ms. Tolentino's mothers' house is in fact the first floor of Madelyne's home.
Lucy: What was it doing?
MT: I was helping my mother, since she was getting ready to move into that location. That's when I noticed that a vehicle was about to park right outside the house. I took a look to make sure it wouldn't block the access to the house. It was then that I noticed that the fellow driving the car was frightened -- his eyes opened wide and he started backing out. His attitude led me to believe someone was going to hit him or mug him. It made me go up against the glass window, which you can see, is quite wide and faces the front of the house. I then became aware of that creature walking on two legs, apparently having come quite a distance, from the corner. It would seem that when the creature became aware of the car it didn't want
to get too close to it, and stood in front of the window through which I was looking outward.
Lucy: Was the creature aware that you were looking at it?
MT: At first, no. Later, I noticed that it was indeed looking back at me by its eye movements.
Lucy: What change did you observe in its eyes?
MT: It moved them constantly, side to side. It dawned on me that it had no whites to its eyes.
Lucy: What color were they?
MT: Dark grey.
Lucy: Did you notice anything else about them?
MT: They were damp and protruding, running up to its temples, spread to the sides.
Lucy: How tall was the creature?
MT: Some 4 feet, more or less. At the time it was walking like a human, on both legs. Its arms were drawn back into an attack position, as though it was a monster.
Lucy: How many fingers did it have?
MT: It had three long, skinny fingers. The arms were also very long. They were drawn back, but I had the impression that they were very long.
Lucy: And its hair?
MT: Rather short and close to its body, rather well-combed, in fact. I noticed that it had apparently been burned by something. It had some round things on its body and the region seemed ashen as if something had burned it right there. The burn mark revealed pinkish-purple skin, as if the top layer had fallen off.
José: As if it had been shot?
MT: No, no, no, not a shot. It looked like it had burned itself with something, and among the ashes you could see this pinkish-purple skin.
José: People are saying someone fired a shot at it.
MT: Yes, I know, but the gunshot incident was much later -- around September.
Lucy: What about the creature's legs?
MT: Its legs were really long and skinny, and I could see three separate toes...like a goose's foot, that has a little thing between the toes.
Lucy: And its nose and mouth?
MT: For a nose it had two little holes, and its mouth was a slash. It was closed. At no moment did it open its mouth, so I never saw fangs nor teeth.
Lucy: What else did you notice about the creature?
MT: I noticed something odd in its lower back. It looked like it had feathers, something that didn't match the rest of its bodily characteristics. That's when I told myself: "What the heck is that?", because it didn't match the rest of the body.
Lucy: How were those "feathers"?
MT: They were like feathers, but flat on its back. At no point did they rise. Do you know what I'm saying?
Lucy: Yes, I do. Were they joined by some sort of membrane?
MT: Yes, and it looked reddish, like a mixture of copper with brown and other colors.
Lucy: What else did you notice?
MT: It was such a weird creature that I even got down on the floor to see if it had genitals. It had nothing at all -- it was "plain" and sealed. I was laughing and saying to my mother: "What the heck is this? Does it defecate through its mouth after it eats?" It made robot-like movements, as if being controlled by someone.
Lucy: And its arms were in an attack position all the time?
MT: At no moment did it lower them.
Lucy: What were its movements like?
MT: Slow, as if guided by remote control. Like a robot.
Lucy: In other words, neither human nor animal movements.
MT: No. And when I noticed the look in the its eyes, I shouted "My God!"
Lucy: You screamed?
MT: Yes, because it shocked me. To tell you the truth, had that thing appeared in front of me I'd have broken into a run, but since I was behind the glass, and there was a gate outside the glass, I said to myself: "That thing can't harm me in here." Meanwhile, when my mother heard me scream, she decided to go out and get the creature [...]. The thing took off running, I'm not sure if it was because I screamed or not.
Lucy: Then what happened?
MT: I noticed that it was kind of hopping, like a kangaroo. But it wasn't a kangaroo! It plunged into the woods over there, where you see that palm tree.
Note: There is a street facing Madelyne's mother's house. There is an empty lot on the other side of the street, with a palm tree, a wire fence and a machine shop belonging to Madelyne's husband, Miguel.
MT: My mother ran after it. I went outdoors, but I stayed far away, where the car was parked.
Note: The car was parked outside her mother's house.
MT: I was telling myself: "I'd better stay here, since I have no idea how that thing is going to react." My mother was where you see that concrete pad. There's a boy that works for my husband who's always willing to deal with animals and keeps a pair of gloves in his car. He put them on and went into the woods to catch the creature.
Lucy: Then what happened?
MT: He says that when he tried to grab the creature it whipped out what I thought were feathers. He says that they stood straight up and that they were very long spines.
José: Like a rooster's comb?
MT: Aha. He says that it stood straight up and didn't move, The spines changed colors.
Lucy: What else happened?
MT: He says that he pried its mouth open and saw that it had really large fangs.
Lucy: Fangs and teeth or what?
MT: He told me that they were fangs and teeth. He kept on trying to grab it and the thing ran out of the woods. My mother was also in there trying to catch it. There was a kid on a bicycle who went crazy when he saw the creature, throwing broken bottles at it. My mother shouted to a neighbor: "Catch it! There it goes!" But when I looked, and I believe this today, that the creature has supernatural intelligence.
Lucy: What makes you say that?
MT: Well, because when the creature heard what my mother shouted at the neighbor, it started running much faster than it had. Its feet weren't touching the ground. It was as if it had been suspended in the air, floating. Then it disappeared down that other street facing the church.
Lucy: Were there other witnesses?
MT: That same evening, two drivers who run the church buses saw the creature. They say that it's eyes were lit in the darkness. Apparently it can turn them "on" at night. I told my mother: "Look, let's keep quiet about this and not say a word to anyone or they'll think we're either crazy or liars."
Lucy: Where was your husband?
MT: He'd gone out looking for parts. When he returned, I couldn't hold back anymore and I told him. Then he said: "My God, that's what I saw this morning!" He says that he had had an experience with the creature that very morning.
Lucy: Have you had any further experiences with the creature?
MT: I ran into it again on January 4th this year (1996). I was returning from K-Mart on Route 185. I began smelling a powerful odor, like battery acid, inside my van.
Lucy: When you first saw the creature, did it give off that smell?
MT: Yes, but not so strong. It's a really strong smell, like Malathion, poison. It suffocates you. I was trying to swallow and I couldn't feel my throat. I was driving along with my two year old and he started gagging in the van, wouldn't stop coughing.
Lucy: Did you feel that your throat was burned, numb or what?
MT: It felt numb. It's like taking a Chloraseptic tablet.
Lucy: Did you feel any strange sensations in your eyes or skin?
MT: No, just my throat.
José: Did you feel faint?
MT: No, but I felt that if I stayed there smelling that reek, you couldn't tell what would happen. Then I told myself: "That must be the creature still roaming around here."
Lucy: What time was it?
MT: Around 7:00 p.m.. Beyond the Race Track, in front of Canóvanas' Barrio Cambalache, right there, on the right, I saw the creature. It was standing in front of my van as if wanting to cross and enter Barrio Cambalache. I saw that its eyes were lit. They looked like Christmas lights.
Lucy: What color were they?
MT: Like fire, orange. A really shocking sight.
José: How many times have you seen it?
MT: Twice, and I'd sooner never see it again.
Lucy: Please look at this Chupacabras drawing. Were its eyes like this?
MT: Yes, yes. Something like that.
Story continues: Part II
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