JON KELLY INTERVIEW ON BACKWARD SPEECH

On The Road To Roswell & Burlington 2008:
A Discussion With Jon Kelly

Editors note:

This is part of a special series of interviews focusing on the 2008 Roswell UFO Festival and the Burlington Vortex Conference, October 24 - November 2nd. RNN is joined by Jon Kelly, an experiential researcher known for his studies of secret backwards messages encoded in human speech along with the production of spiritual phenomena recorded on camera. A popular guest in the media, his unique catalogues of audio and photographic materials have been featured on over 1000 international radio and television programs.

RNN: Jon, thank you for doing this interview. I want to get right at it, so let's being with the question: Are there secret unconscious messages hidden backwards in human speech?

KELLY: Yes there are and we can detect these messages with the help of a digital audio editing workstation. Most people know about Freudian slips that occur when the unconscious mind takes temporary control of the speech organs. People may end up saying things they later regret but these slips are involuntary on their part.

For example, when Stephen Grant told police he wanted to participate in the search of a local Michigan park to find his missing wife, he tried to say "I know the area". But instead, he mouthed the words "I know ... the dead ... the area."

To the casual listener it sounded as if Grant was simply mumbling as if he were at a loss for words. But upon closer inspection it was obvious to me that his unconscious mind was attempting to confess to the murder of his wife Tara Lynn Grant, whose body police found later, hidden in the garage of the family home.

The recording of Grant's slip is significant because the unconscious message is given in a separate voice that is easily distinguished by tonal and inflectional qualities from Grant's normal speech. Now imagine the same distinct voice involuntarily delivering the same verifiable information but encoded in reverse.

This is what we are observing when we listen to speech recordings played backwards.

RNN: What are some of the things that happen when people listen to backwards speech recordings for the first time?

KELLY: Listening to backwards messages can provoke a number of physiological responses, including hair-raising, goose bumps and shivers going up and down the spine. These responses indicate the powers of backwards messages to invoke feelings from within beyond any powers of suggestion the presenter may have. For people learning how to detect the messages for themselves it is not uncommon that they will hear their own unconscious material while listening to the speech of others.

In Yoga, the tranquil mind is like a mirror that can reflect cosmic qualities to the observer, just like a pool of undisturbed water that provides a clear reflection of the moon. People who want to advance in their listening practice have to take care to maintain a harmonious balance in their lives in order to access and share undistorted perceptions of hidden realities with others.

RNN: You have listened backwards to the speeches of people describing contact with space craft from other civilizations. What did you find out?

KELLY: When President Jimmy Carter told reporters late last year that he didn't think flying saucers were the vehicles of space people visiting the earth, I played his speech in reverse and heard the words "Saucer. Went out naked. Going out. They'll put it in him". Although it was part of his campaign promise, this message made me wonder if the President had more personal reasons for sending Alfred Webre to SRI in the 1970's in order to release the government's secret research on extraterrestrials. From my reading of the message it describes Carter as a potential abductee.

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