The only aliens causing problems for us are the ones that travel under the cover of night, and abduct not our sons and daughters, but our laptops, hdtvs, and dvd players!

Universal studios has already admitted that the whole thing is fake, they had to pay 20,000 dollar to an Alaskan press company for making fake news stories and obituaries in Alaskan papers, sorry to burst all you crazy peoples bubbles. Wikipedia has the whole story. Quit being so gullible. Hollywood has fooled u dumb people once again.

The dozens of researchers thru the years have convinced me that 'yes indeed somethings going on with this phenonmena'. I feel there would not be dozens of investigators spending dozens of years of their life involved in researching the UFO/Alien phenonmena. Just do a search of people like Jacques Vallee, Budd Hopkins, Whitley Strieber, David Jacobs, John Mack, Travis Walton and Raymond Fowler(to name a few) to form your own opinions about the reality of all of this!
The people who made this movie made a great effort at making people think more about the phenonmena. I do feel that the 'real' footage of interviews and hyponosis was a bit iffy but in the end it did get you thinking and perhaps thats what the producers had in mind all along, not entirely to defraud and fake everyone. I'll leave that investigative work up to someone else. I am not convinced that 'real' footage was all faked or staged but its definitely suspicious. I hate leaving a decent movie like this thinking that way.
All in all I thought it was a decent portrayal of what some people go thru and I would see it again.

hey man ufos are real
all you !@#$%s who dont believe are shshshshit!
i was abducted at age of 9 12 14 and 45
when i was 45 i was in my moms basement and the alien came and got me. he told me his name was frank and i remember seeing him down the street
he touched me in areas that shouldnt be touched>-(
maybe now youll approve it you !@#$%s!

Read any of Zecharia Sitchin's books especially the 12th Planet and The Lost Book of Enki.

Dirk

I was very excited to hear about an alien movie. Concept itself freaked me out a bit. But nothing more than in the commercials. Horrible movie. And why the hell is the alien saying SPOILER
"I am god", "I savior", "my world", "my will", "our creation...examine...Ruin and destroy". What the hell is the alien talking about God for?! Kind of reminds me of that retarded translator in the movie "mars attacks!". Any excuse for an idiot tacky scary movie to mention God for some random reason haha

I absolutely loved this movie, it had me thinking.

I'm still looking into if the "actual footage" is actual footage.
But for arguments sake lets say it is.
This encounter seems to be demonic, which I s'pose could be considered 'alien'. The entity says it is "I AM" which is what God called Himself when He spoke to Moses. And, outrightly, the entity calls itself God. Satan has disguised himself as God as referenced historically and has declared his desire to be worshiped instead of God as referenced biblically. So, you have a non-benevolent being that has nowhere the powers of God claiming to be god. Sounds satanic to me
I have had encounters that I would say are demonic. Nothing to the degree of the film but with similarities...I was in a light sleep, there were no shapes but a definite sense of the presence of a conscious entity, the feeling of evil ("hopelessness" as described by Dr. Abigail). Fortunately I am a Christian so I can't be possessed. None-the-less, demonic activity is there. They are 'alien' to our existence but are real. A true RELATIONSHIP with the one and only God will prevent possession. If you seek God, with ALL YOUR HEART you will find HIm. And you will be saved.

Reading some of these comments is making me laugh. I believe that there is life elsewhere in the universe, and maybe they have visited Earth. But some of you people ACTUALLY believing that this movie is based on truth, and that Dr. Abigal Tyler is a real person is really really sad. The "real" Abigal Tyler is obviously and actress, and any person who has seen more than one movie in their life would be able to tell that she is an actress. Also, you can't possibly believe these 'home videos' are real, can you? I mean they are so obviously faked, and they conveniently cut out at important parts that there is no argument you could make for these 'home videos' being real. Sorry people, open your eyes...
p.s... To the person who said their heart goes out to Dr. Abigail Tyler: THERE IS NO ABIGAIL TYLER!!!

but please, state your argument, I am very interested...

This movie is fake....missing people in Alaska is true, but everything else is fake...

Viewed this movie last evening, and this may add an important piece to a very puzzling clue about us and what might be going on in our world. This is being denied by most of our establishment, but add it up and it again might question our origins on this place we call planet earth,

My friend and I saw this movie a couple of nights ago. Somehow it brought me back to the 1970's
and the "Exorcist". I hate all that levitation and contortion stuff, it really freaks me out. It plays on the fear of not having any control and having a non benevolant force take over your body and soul.
Still, if aliens can remove people through the ceiling, then why are they always opening up the door?

THIS IS WITHOUT A DOUBT THE MOST IMPORTANT MOVIE OF OUR TIMES.By the way Sumarian, langusge is the most anchient language of the human race and predates everything else. Would have likely been the language that was spoken when the aliens first arrived those thousands of years ago

It had me going for a while. And as soon as I got home I started to do research on Nome and Dr Abigail Tyler. With regard to Nome, the FBI did investigate missing persons up there, but concluded that it was due to alcohol consumption and the harsh weather. With regard to Dr Tyler, there are no records of her practice, nor her registration with the medical board in Alaska. Also, there are no records pertaining to her missing daughter.
I do believe UFOs exist and that there is a distinct possibility that there are abductions (for example Travis Walton back in 1975, which is documented). However, leading the audience on by declaring that the movie is "based on factual events" which apparently it is not is underhanded and sleazy.

saw the movie the other night. scared the hell out of me even as half the audience laughed... which lightend the mood relaxing me.. im 33 and never scared.. But i bought into it. so it worked. later finding out that the footage wasnt.. but who cares.. great job. an no joke.. as the above posts said. i see the numbers 911 a few times a day. i will not look at the clock for hrs and the one time i do is 911 over and over for 10 years. somethings going on for sure

I bought it. I think the footage was actual therapy footage. I may be proven wrong in time, but right now, here, today, I accept it.

I've seen 2 UFOs to date. The first, on a clear August night as a child, hovered between a barn and a line of pine trees, lower than both, motionless, shining on a field in Western New York State. The second while waiting for a bus at about 2 am, in front of the West Hollywood Library. There was a flash of light high above the northern corner of the Pacific Design Center which shot south in a straight line then stopped, roughly above the end of the PDC. The line of light from the initial burst caught up to the stopping point and just faded away. They were Unidentified, they Flew, and they appeared to be Objects of some sort.

I've known one abductee. His experience was far less traumatic than that described in this film, but he also said there are different groups who go about things in very different ways and for different reasons.

There are far too many stars, and as we're learning all the time, far too many worlds for us to be all alone. Any race capable of breaking the light barrier to span the distances is of concern, because even if benevolent, their perspectives are likely to be so far removed from our own, that they may not notice the injuries they inflict, or care. Even if they do care, we don't go out of our way to comfort and console the animals we dart and tag, and in comparison, our rustic little society would be the equivalent of "Wild Kingdom" at best.

If anyone thinks the 'actual footage' is actual footage, they should watch the movie again and pay attention. They actually used some of the SAME props to film scenes in the "actual footage" and scenes of movie footage. And they'd use those same props in different locations. For example in the 'actual footage' they would use a lamp in Dr. Tyler's office, then they would use that same lamp in the movie footage when one of patients is in his bed at his home and he's floating above the bed...
The 'real' Abigail Tyler is an actress. I've definitely seen her in movies before. AND she wasn't even convincing in trying to be the real doctor. Unless they are super amazing, you can tell when someone is acting, and you could tell throughout the WHOLE movie that the lady was acting. They also put so much ghastly make up on her, it made her even less believable - no real person looks like that, even an anorexic and crazy one.

This is a serious subject, and I would suggest to anyone who's educated and wanting to see this film to start with a little research into Sumerian Culture. Look up Zechariah Sitchin on youtube and there is also good material at the same place by a Christian Scholar named Michael S. Heiser.
If you dont have information from multiple independent sources and created your own backdrop for yourself, then you will likely throw a lot of the movies content out, and understandably. I would seriously not take kids even though it's PG 13.
With background knowledge in Sumerian Culture, the idea of "gods" (not to be confused with God with a capital "G") who were part of the original fall, and the firm idea that these occurrences are genuinely demonic, I'd say anyone would have a better time looking into this deeply spiritual phenomena with even a little information on the subject and then seeing the movie.
My heart goes out to Dr. Abagail Tyler.

well i really thought that i would not believe in any kind of fenominal stuff such as aliens, ghosts or etc... but this movie really did touch me! i could actually feel her pain just by looking at her. i mean thinking about it, she has every right to feel unsecure and scared because of the fact that she lost her husband and daughter... i really would not know what i would have done in her position... though she is still alive and really admire her for her bravery.

Folks, the documentary footage was staged. The whole thing was shot in Rumania (check the credit roll), and it's just a drama/thriller using alien abduction as a motif. It was pretty good, except there was a huge hole in the plot wherein the sheriff seems not to acknowledge that his own deputy witnesses a key abduction and his acknowledgement is is on videotape. Hence, all of the action that takes place thereafter based on the premise that the sheriff does not believe that the abduction took place makes little sense even in the bizarre context of this film. Still, I'm telling friends to see it because it's fun.

1.) The fact that anyone can say something does or does not exist without researching the facts, or keeping an open mind... really creates ignorance. That is why people are so dumb, truly it is. You can not say something does not exist, for example I have never seen Antartica, because I have never seen it with my own eyes I say it does not exist, when everyone knows it exists... or say I'm schizophrenic and I decide a pink elephant is standing next to me... yet no one else sees it... obviously it's not there but because I think it is I think it's fact. Personal opinions do NOT matter when it comes to fact or fiction. Research and science are the only things that can prove or disprove something exists or does not exist.

Onto my story though...
I did have an experience, about 1 to 1 1/2 years ago. I was comming home from work it was about 11:30 PM I live right done the street from work(I work in a Retirement home). Anyways I was walking into my apartment and I was on the side walk (we live on the first floor), and was entering from the porch (which the key does not work) my fiance would let me in as usual, well before I walked on the porch I heard a humming noise the windows started shaking a little, and my other neighbor who was outside smoking said "What the heck is that?" as she pointed up, I looked up our apartment is 3 floors high (three story building) and I saw a triangular shaped thing with lights on it perfectly level above me in the sky. I screamed, my neighbor ran in and I banged on the porch door like crazy, all I had to do was look at it for a few seconds, and I decided to move as fast as possible. so as I'm banging on the door ofcourse my fiance opens it and says "what was that noise." I told him about the object I witnessed, and reported it to the police. The apartments we were living in were in a suburb a bit aways from the city, and the apartment buildings were spaced far apart. There is no reason for the government to be hoovering over our apartment building perfectly level with the building, and it was something I had never saw, and havent seen since. Nor is it something I want to see, because I really would not want to find out. I don't know what it was, and don't know what I believe. I'm not sure about the whole "abduction theory" but I wasn't sticking around to find out.

Humans don't have the answers for everything, we may be the top dogs on this planet, and perhaps its comfortable to believe nothing else exists because we are cowards and want to feel safe... who knows. My opinion anything is possible. I can not rule anything out, because I do not know everything... nor does anyone else. And say these people who have had abductions are mentally ill, and have not had them. It's not cool to poke fun, what if that was your children, parents, or best friend? What if?

We agree that space goes on forever, correct? Well, that's proof alone that there IS something else out there, right? I mean if space just goes on FOREVER then there has to be another, more intelligent, life form.

at the end of the movie all the callers sound like rednecks. and yes, why does this happen to only americans? how come there's no mention of aliens in chinese folklore and china has been around for way longer than the US?

I want to believe, but I can't. First, I don't understand how you're able to release confidential tapes between a psychologist and their patients...especially of a man who killed himself (who couldn't possibly have given consent) and his family. How are they able to show a real murder/suicide video to the mass population either? The cop surveillancing their home...seriously if you saw a bright light sucking up a little child, I think people would be making a little more of a stink about it then just releasing this movie. And how did she just so happen to fall asleep, tape recorder in hand so conveniently recording, and somehow capture this demonic creepy way too fake sounding voice screaming out how hes examining her. I guess those aliens talk to themselves. and why are they examining us for billions of years?

I saw the film last night, i agre3 it was scary and creepy as shit, but i have 1 question. Why did all the abductions happen at night or in there sleep?.If they could erase their presence in your mind and forbid you to describe them..then why appear when you are sleeping or at night?..I look at things like this, The human mind is so powerfull yet so dangerous, it serves as a threat to all living, dead, fake, real, alien, human, god, devil..whatever you want to call it...that whoever did creat us or belive created us is trying to understand what made us like this....maby the aliens arent "the aliens"..maby we are the real "aliens" whose mind power is exponentially increasing as time goes in a non normal way......but thats just me.

Do a little research. Have you ever heard of Zecharia Sitchin or read The Lost Book Of Enki. Sumerian may indeed be the language of the Gods. It wouldn't surprise me in the least.

haha, aliens know an old human language...? well, if they're so good at learning languages why couldn't they have learnt english? hmm...
The 'real footage' ? hardly real was it.... how convenient to keep missing out the main evidential parts.
I'm not being closed-minded... because the movie did make me think more about the theories. I'm just saying some of it sounds a little... dodgy.
I even think the mother may have killed her own daughter....?

(as all people begin) I'm a skeptic by nature. I don't believe in ghosts, the afterlife, or aliens (or at least I didn't use to)

As the notion of aliens has always unsettled me, I had to watch "The Fourth Kind" regardless of if it was true or not. Well - after watching it - I have to say that all the UFO stuff I've scoffed at in the past suddenly makes me think again.

What makes the movie compelling isn't necessarily how genuine the footage looks (and it does look pretty damn real) but the ramifications if aliens exist as portrayed in the movie.

Ever watch End of Days (i think) where the devil says, "God is a kid w/ a magnifying glass"? Well, that would make sense. Seems like the aliens (God) created us (in its own image) and God has a real self esteem problem. It's like Stargate all over again!

This could give some clout to 2010 as well. Perhaps ancient people knew the day our creators would come back to end us all (similar to the flood, but this time w/ fire)

And what about the telepathic link in the movie? Is this what people are really experiencing when they communicate via prayer? What those who meditate tap into?

What makes the existence of aliens really cool is it merges both science and religion. So, much like the trying to reconcile einstein's gravity and string theory... if there could be a unifying theory... then that would be that right?

i dunno... maybe i'm just nuts :)

ah welll i saw it tonight, and it was pretty scary, i have these phases where i see the number 33. in the movie each time somthing happend it was 3:33, when i first saw the clock that said 3:33 in the movie; i was FREAKED, i almost cried! but likee iddk, it all started when i woke up one moring it was 5:33 and i was like that for the next days at the exact timee, i go through many phases where i see 33 quite oftenn! i soon began to look 33 up on the internet; andd it bascically said that thee number 33 means something, that not eveyone can see (or understand) kind of like that aliens? well im only 13, haahh, im not going to sleeeep well tonight!

I just saw this movie. It was much scarier than I realized. I agree with Cheesewhiz. I think the movie is very gutsy and unique in how it tackles the topic of abduction, and by necessity of "are we alone." I don't think we are.

I'm going to see the Fourth Kind tonight. I'm a skeptic when it comes to aliens, but I am reasonable enough to say that sometimes I may be wrong. I don't know if the movie is real or not, but that isn't the question. Are Extra-terestreal abductions actually happening? Or is it all our minds playing tricks on us?
As for flying saucers... our government has developed those. Hitler was actually the first to design a flying saucer. Don't believe me? Look it up. So as for those sightings I know it is our own government. Sorry.

I teared up during it. It scared the shit out of me, because i have always believed in all of it. The real footage just makes it that more real, and if some people don't beleive it, that is rather ignorant. People can believe what they want, but no one can say ANYTHING. No one knows what is out there and what is not, NO ONE, and it is eevryones choice to believe it or not. ...I do.

I was hesitant to see this film as the reviews were so poor, however, I found it extremely compelling.

It's easy for my mind to laugh and say this is just ridiculous, and what a stupid idea, but I need to be fair.

Look, the fact of the matter is the UFO evidence is staggering. It is true regardless of what you believe. The Canadian dept of defence statement a few years ago was shocking the that effect.

These things and these occurances either exist or they do not exist. Be bold and imagine the reality of each fully.

This entire subject matter threatens to collapse so many instilled beliefs, and stretches our minds in places we dare not go. I personally don't want it to be real, and perhaps it's not...... but maybe it is. (inserting fingers in ears and humming)

Maybe the universe is far more mysterious and terrifying than my brain has capacity to understand.

If you really want to enjoy this film, try to imagine what it means for you as a human if the "on screen" phenomena is real, and the accounts are true. Dare to try it.... I'd much rather believe it to be a hoax.

5 stars for trying to raise awareness about one of the most controversial and to some ridiculous subject matters if all time.

Just because most information on extra-terrestrial beings is based off personal accounts which lead to unbelievable theories, should not be credited as pseudoscience...any true person of science would follow Sir Francis Bacon's methodology to righfully prove or disprove something in the name of science. Don't speak as if mandkind's knowledge of the sciences are in absolutes. Science is constently changing, the hypothesis is always changing. The only thing which should remains, is the methodology of examining evidence and testing it under a control...then adjust theory where needed...any party is free to form a Rebuttal...repeat from step 1. There is not enough physical data to test and the subject like in anything else should remain open for healthy discussion.

One night I was walking in the woods alone and I heard this strange "whirring" sound and saw strange lights in the sky. The next thing you know it was morning and I was lying on the ground. I got up and walked back home. All day my bung hole felt "funny". I told my friends what had happened and that my bung hole felt "funny". They said maybe I had been abducted by aliens and they gave me an anal probe. I think they were right because now everytime I fart a satellite dish comes out of my bung hole and I can pickup reception on my Sirius radio.

i am so excited for this. i love to be scared and this sounds reeeeeeeeeeally scary. i have seen the trailer like 100 times. i think it does not make sense that there is not soething else out there. and if there is and they wanted to take you what coud you do about it? that is freeeeeeaky

i love the irregardless is not a word comment...so true.

This movie looks like a heaping helping of nonsense. I would be fine with it as a piece of fiction, but it represents itself as a bit of compelling evidence. To me it looks like discredited psychological quackery peppered with UFO bunkum. Let's just say I'm skeptical.

let me just say, I was actually pretty excited to go watch this with my friend Julie, but now all you freaks are scaring me and how am I supposed to sleep tonight?>-(

I dont know if 'reality transformation' is the same as abduction. The movie says that 'abduction' is the fourth kind of close encounter and it deals with the aftermath of abduction. Either way the movie itself works. Its thoughtful and makes things more and more intense as it moves along. Matt is right about keeping an open mind. Its an interesting question. More interesting is looking at how it affects people down here - people who are convinced they were abducted. Right or wrong. Whcih is why I think the movie is so frightening.

Irregardless isn't a word.

Just so everyone knows... Close Encounters of the Fourth Kind is part of a set of Definitions used in the UFO community to classify different kinds of events. It was developed by Jaques Vallee and consists of four main Definitions and five sub-categories for each. This system is used every day to classify events.

I will only address the sub Defintions for the Close Encounter event:

Defintion #1 AN Anomolus Lights
#2 FB Flyby
#3 MA Manuver
#4 CE Close Encounter
1-Sighting
2-Physical Effect
3-Living Entities (Remember Close Encounters of the Third Kind)
4-Reality transformation
5-Lasting Injury



Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jenna-busch/emthe-fourth-kindem-revie_b_342812.html

when you say things like aliens dont exiat, you are the most ignorant person in the world. you are completely closed minded. There are thousands if not millions of other galaxies in the universe that share similar properties to ours, and these galaxies are more than likely to contain life. The amount of research we put into space exploration is so extensive that there is bound to be a day when we discover a way to reach those planets, so what makes you think the life on those other planets could not do the same thing. Many of them are bound to be far more technologically advanced beyond what we can imagine. The only reason we may not be out of our galaxy already is because the resources on our planet may be completely different, and less useful than those of another. get it? open your minds people. believe in what you cannot understand, because if you can believe in god without evidence, you should be able too believe in aliens with evidence. and if you dont think there is evidence, do research. Personally i believe in god and in aliens, and that the two are somehow related. don't be so thick-skulled people.

. . . Yob, but see it and we'll see how tough you are then. I'm just saying.

We have been fooling you stupid humans for thousands of years.We are not worried that this film will do anything but make you look more foolish we are just very glad they left out lasers,slime, and Will Smith GOD.....OOPS...WE know we could not have taken anything like that again.

Not necessarily a believer, but definitely interested in the subject matter. Kinda interested from the trailer. Got a chance to see a screening because a buddy of mine works for a theater and I thought it was fascinating way of presenting the material. And though I'm a little jaded with alien stuff - see, read a lot of it - I was scared as balls. I don't know how "true" it is, or if it's a composite, or what not . . . Didn't care. Still scared.

Strangely enough...and this is true by the way, i kept waking up at night and seeing 1138 on my clock. Then one night at 11.38 (my clock is not 24 hr by the way) i heard a rumbling sound that woke me up and as i sat up in bed i saw the distinct shape of a helmet peeking round the door and a strange breathing/wheezing sound. I was terrified to say the least but i was frozen and could not move. He had me in what i later learned was called a "force grip" and then took me aboard a huge triangular ship in space where he subjected me to interrogations regarding some kind of "star of death" plans. I was then probed by a large floating circular robot. I managed to escape in a strange pod with help from 2 automatons, one was a shiny gold colour and the other i can only describe as being like a waste bin. I have been to many counselling sessions since but none have helped. Hopefully this film can shed some light on this troubling matter.

im seeing the numbers 911 alot too. wherever i go i see 911 everywere

i screened this movie as well at my college, and man.. it freaked me out!

it was really engaging with the storyline and the characters were relatable, especially abigail tyler.. i can only imagine her sorrow and how she felt since no one believed her..

the ending was mysterious and keeps you questioning.

man, i wasn't even into alien abductions and now i just want to know more.

highly recommend it.

My own personal experiences have finally been validated. I don't share this story because I fear misinterpretation, and too many people refuse to look through their prejudices at the facts.
I was at a bar in the SF Bay area on a Tuesday night about three years ago. I wasn't drinking much, so please don't question my sobriety! I was approached by a dark-skinned man that I could tell was obviously disguised. He was unable to speak clear English, and I assumed there was something he was hiding. We left and went to his place, where I ended up unconscious without knowing how, but I knew that next morning he had completed his experiments. As I left, I saw the Mexican flag on his wall, and I knew immediately I had been abducted and probed by an Alien!

Just a couple of thoughts, while throwing a wet blanket over the thrills....

1 - Guess what? There's NO SUCH THING as "Alien Abductions". It's a psycho-induced delusion.

2 - Sleep disorders - particularly temporary ones, that appear and go away again, particularly during periods of life-stress (gee, any of THAT going around these days?) - are fairly common. "Sleep Paralysis" .... research this topic, and you will find all the parallels between most subjects and what these supposed abductee's report.

I repeat - ALIEN ABDUCTION is a delusion. It does NOT EXIST. There ARE NO ALIENS sneaking into our bedrooms (?!?!?) at night and spiriting us off into an interstellar lab to probe our genitalia. (I wonder how many of these "victims" have in fact been psycho-analyzed for childhood sex victimizations.) Come on people .... get REAL, will you? Al Kaeda is bad enough.... understandable for some people's sub-conscious to provide an easy 'escape route' into fantasyland.

Sorry to burst your Halloween bubble, folks ....

my college had an early screening of this film and i have to say it was one of the worst films ive seen in a long time. the acting was so bad everyone was laughing throughout.. and the "archival footage" was a joke

Folks, why are you guys saying "once they mentioned the Sumerian language, I knew it was BS" If any of this is even slightly true the evidence of the Sumerian language is believable. I don't get it then... What are you saying by this? Aliens weren't around back then when Sumerian was?

PEOPLE - NOME ALASKA IS NOT SURROUNDED BY ANY MOUNTAINS!! IN FACT IT IS PRETTY DAMN FLAT ON THE COAST FOR MILES!!! BUT YET THE MOVIE IS PICTURED WITH SNOW CAPPED ENORMOUS PEAKS AROUND NOME...

Did the directors of this BS even go to Nome? How can there be any credibility to this film if something so simple isn't true at all.W

I looked out my window this morning and saw a "pink elephant". One minute it was there, the next it was gone. I think this is another alien abduction. Please help?

this is sounding weird, but here's something a little weird (only a couple people close to me know about this, and I'm hardly going to tell anyone else without being anonymous). OK some of this is going to be mere coincidence. Back in about 1986, I went through a period of waking up in the morning "paralyzed", for no real reason, before or since. And, funny thing was when I was finally able to move, I'd pop up and look at the clock. Always the same exact time...no, not 333.. it was always 5:53am. And mind you, I work a lot and wasn't an early riser by any stetch. OK, just a couple more details. I was living w my now ex. We had mirror tiles on one wall in the bedroom. One day she asked me why I ripped the tiles off the wall...then I remembered that night I was literally breaking off the tiles with my bare hands in pieces, no idea how I didn't cut myself, she asked what I was doing. I didn't know why I was doing it and went back to bed. Anyway, long forgotten until about 1995..Then I started to key in a lot more than usual about all things alien and ufo, so much that I was actually out at night just looking at the sky for ufos. Then it started affecting me- almost obsessed. My gf at the time thought I was losing it. Then, funnier still...about 1988 or 1989 I had a friend go to a hypnotherapist for an "attitude adjustment"- found out later it was to quit drinking. Well I thought it's be cool and went to see him to see what it's all about. Nothing special, he did hypnotize me. Didn't talk much. Fast forward again to 1995...during my ufo fascination thing..I thought I'd look up the HT and ask him if there was any mention about aliens, etc during my hypno. He had moved to seattle, and by sheer luck he happened to be in town for a few days. We had lunch, I got to the point. He said I stated that I thought I had been abducted and examined. OK, weird. He didn't have his files, they were in storage in seattle in boxes. Wish I could see what's in them...Did nothing more after that. But anyway, I'm not in nome, in anchorage, and this was my thing. And no, don't do drugs, then or now, don't drink much- "social" drinker is even a stretch. Sane...etc. But it was a weird experience, and i know hollywood will kill a good idea, but I will go see the flick.

With the whole number thing, I see the time 9:11 a lot...does this mean anything? Probably not, I probably saw it a lot before, but until I put any actual meaning to the numbers I never noticed it.

I have had a close encounter myself, and it's been properly investigated by the experts, and made it into the press, and ufo magazine did a feature article on my sighting.

Me and my pal go star gazing and had no intrest in ufos. We went to our usual spot and had enjoyable night as usual. But out attention was drawn to the forest near by. We sen this bright green light with shadwos moving about in the middle of the forrest. We went for a nosey as we were curious. My pal tripped and fell and the light disappeared. Then we legged it out the forest and drove home. It was about 11.30ish pm, and the brightness of that light should not have been there at that time of night. I checked out the forrest in the day light and there was a knocked over fence, ipressions in the ground we took pics of, this got all investigated. It wasn't the foresty commission at that time. It was later said, to have match up with details of another sighting that was seen further north, in a similar locaion. We even made it onto tv, and radio with our tale. It attracted intrest from all over.

Never forget that night.

I would be interested to know what researchers like Dr. Budd Hopkins and David M. Jacobs and Whitley Streiber and Dr. Jacques Vallee think about this? They are some of the most reknowned Ufologists and some of the most respected...they surely must have come across of heard of these claims in their years of research if there is any truth to this movie at all.
And even if it's loosely "based-on" true stories, I'm still going to go see it...it's about TIME they come out with something worth watching..I was getting tired of the Mars VS Earth alien movies...*bore*

Everybody's complaints about the mention of 'Sumerian language' and of the '3:33 phenomenon' are quite ridiculous. For one, most people probably couldn't locate ancient Sumeria on a map, let alone tell you the significance of the language in accordance with supernatural activity. And the '3:33' planted into the movie does exactly what it's supposed to do; Captivate the believers, and anyone else should remain indifferent if they TRULY don't believe what they see.
I just saw the above trailer, as I've only seen the TV trailers before then... It says 'Based on actual case studies'. Never said 'based on true events', in which case it would be fraudulent to reel 'scenes from actual investigations' that may have occurred. With only saying that it is based, regardless of how loosely, on case studies, it is entirely within their rights to dramatize/make-up sections of the movie said to be 'real footage'.
People just need to be educated viewers and, if you DON'T like a movie, DON'T watch it! It really goes no further than that.

I can't really find it in myself to attack the movie. It does intrigue me quite a bit, and I am still going to watch the movie. It is an interesting concept, whether fabricated or not, and it is really up to whether the viewers are educated or dumb as to the "fame tactics" used. So I'm not going to criticize what they do for fame. Obviously they have found effective methods to lure people in; why would they deviate?
One criticism I do have, however, is that people are making money off of a skewed version of the story while the people of Nome, Alaska still feel oppressed & ignored by their police force/government to find the bodies of the missing Natives. It saddens me. :/

Until I get sucked into a UFO at 3:33 I am going to be a number-pooper and say this number thing ppl are reading so much into is ridiculous... yes lots of ppl see "333" but ALSO lots of people see "444" or "111" on the clock or in random other places... for some time I keep seeing "1234" on the clock etc etc... other times in my life it has been a different number.

It doesn't mean a darned thing except that human brains love patterns and LOVE to read too much into things..

I saw 'The fourth kind' at a special screening last night with my son. We both had questions afterwards and we went online to check the 'links'. I'm 70 years old and have been going to the movies since the '40's. My son is 30 and is a reasonable skeptic. Go see the movie if you want to but remember, it's just a movie with the usual hollywood archetypes. I won't say anymore because you should make up your own minds.

I just saw the movie and I have to say that it looks real. I'm just confused as to how anyone would bash it just because the trailer mentions the Sumerian language. The fact that there have been missing people in Nome, alaska and the fbi has visited nome at least 2,000 times, says a lot. People came out of the theater bashing it because it didn't scare them out of their panties, which I'm not surprised the mass public would react that way.its not your typical hollywood movie.
Its no secret that the fbi can keep anything under the rug by deleting any info on these cases and dr. Tyler herself out of the hands of the people through the internet or archives. I'm pretty sure some of you know how easily a person's credibility is shot by the powers that be and their reputation as well.I have seen ufos, felt a presence in my room m many times, I have had the same phenomena with the number the 3, 3am etc....but I honestly don't know what it all means.whether its masonic, or the devil's number, or whatever. When you watch themovie, you'll know what I mean... there's a scene where a being is claiming to be God. This just confuses me, there are theories that aliens are just manifestations as demons and vice versa, but there are theories that certain alien races are just downright cold, emotionless etc. As far as I'm concerned to the validity of this movie being based on true events, there has never been a movie made where they said it was based on true evens and it wasn't. Blair witch never claimed it was true, neither did paranormal activity.

Well I believe that there is probably no significance to that number other than your new paranoia for that number... When I look at the clock, I see the number 9 11... I'll be watching a sporting event and see it tick to that time... or ill look at a clock and notice the number.. Is it anything? No, just my subconscious looking for a pattern in complete randomness... think about all the other times you look at a clock and don't see that number... the number 333 appears in movies, not by accident, but purposely to symbolize something... whether it be the 3rd act of the movie, the holy trinity, or a masonic symbol, it is there for a reason... Don't look too much into it, its just a number.

the claim of Nome Alaska and high disepearance rates seem to verifie atleast from this http://www.rlnn.com/ArtNov05/UnsolvedCasesNomeAttractFBI.html un;ike the other pages ive found out there id be suprised if this was planted if it is the person who did is pretty messed up

The comments I have read about Dr. Abagail Tyler being completely fictitious makes the movie less appealing to me. These reports would be terrible if true.

However its completely believable that Hollywood would pull this kind of crap. The way that the movie "Fire in the Sky" skewed Travis Walton's testimony is probably the best case in point that I can think of.

Still, I enjoyed "Fire in the Sky" and I intend to see "The Fourth Kind" irregardless.

the story is real

http://fightforjustice.blogspot.com/2006/07/fbi-no-serial-killer-in-nome-alaska.html

Yeah guys... take a look at this and tell me any of it is real.

THE PLANTS:

http://www.abigailtyler.com/ -- umm, OK that's an easy plant. Cheap URL, no real info.

http://alaskapsychiatryjournal.org/entries/Dr-Abigail-Tyler-Bio.html -- no contact info? No page at the root URL? No ties to any universities or real businesses?

http://alaskanewsarchive.com/ -- mentions of the doctor here... but again, there's no commercial venue connected to the site. It's a plant. Isn't it suspicious that there are only a bit over a dozen articles in a bit over a dozen years? Plus, anytime you click on what might be a telling link, there's a "javascript not enabled" page you get, even though javascript is enabled on my browser. Clever way to cut off the site if you're just taking everything prima facie without thinking too logically about it.

http://alaskanewsarchive.com/news/archive/08-03-2000/Obituary-Dr-William-Tyler.html -- they are getting way too personal in this obit. When's the last time an obit divulged such personal and legal details about a death? Also, there's no evidence anywhere that the Tylers' practice ever existed.

Regarding Hollywood: So they like to package things in neat, photogenic, attractive packages...Isn't that a good thing when it comes to getting the masses at large to "wake up" and think about the possibilities that exist outside of the mundane, everyday realities they have been conditioned to accept as the only possible version of the truth?

Regarding the other post by Paul about 333:
I share your experiences with this odd phenomenon. I have noticed it very prominently since about 1998. It can be uncanny. Day after day (with occasional breaks in between, granted..) for no reason at all, I glance at a digital clock, and it says 3:33. I glance at the countdown timer on the microwave, or on the treadmill at the gym. For whatever reason, the the number is counting down to 3:33, or :33 . Same applies at the gas pump, or even totals on receipts when I make a purchase at Starbucks, etc.

I have seen websites created with the sole purpose of discussing this phenomenon (maybe you own one of them?)

What I "know" about 333 is that it is a very significant number to the Free Masons (their coveted highest degree is 33 too) and in Numerology in general (and it bears relationships to 666 and 999 in those circles as well.)

Nasa (which many speculate is dominated by Masons and Illuminatus, etc.) loves 333, many of their launches occurred at this hour (am and pm). BTW, that statement (re. Nasa) goes back many years when I looked into the topic, I have no "proof" of it to point to, but found it fairly readily when I searched online for it years back.

Maybe its just an easy number to remember, and therefore our minds filter it in our perception much more readily than other numbers...

However, I have *never* noticed a recurring trend of seeing 12:12, 10:10, or any other "easy to remember" number sequence in my daily life. Yet 3:33 essentially slaps me in the face, from an awareness perspective, almost daily.

I actually believe it has a significance that I just have not figured out yet.

I think many Hollywood writers are aware of the "streams" of occult information such as the Masons, Illuminati, Numerology, and other "New Agey" trends that have grown in popularity in recent years. Whether for the pop sub-culture impact, or because they are "initiated" to the deeper meanings of it, they include it in their work as a "nod" to the relative few of their audience that can recognize it.

I may be patently full of **it, but that's the best I can do for a theory. Would love to be further enlightened by others that are familiar.

This kind of publicity is completely unacceptable. It is one thing to simply lie about the truth of certain events, but to actually create websites and other sources that attempt to verify the lie should be illegal. How is anyone supposed to be able to conduct legitimate research when corporations can go around creating fake medical journal website. Here is Universal Studios phone number - please call and complain about this blatant public manipulation: 818-777-1000

This kind of publicity is completely unacceptable. It is one thing to simply lie about the truth of certain events, but to actually create websites and other sources that attempt to verify the lie should be illegal. How is anyone supposed to be able to conduct legitimate research when corporations can go around creating fake medical journal websites? Here is Universal Studios phone number - please call and complain about this blatant public manipulation: 818-777-1000

Resistance is Futile, we will assimulate you. The Collective is good, the Collective is Hollywood Entertainment. Where's the popcorn, I love a good scare. Now, the Real folks out there that live in the "Frozen Tundra", I couldn't do it, drive me insane. Folks that are cases that are real or believe they have been abducted, well hang in there. Movies are suppose to be Entertainment. Lastly, ask a Native American what the 'White Owl' means, may enlighten.

As you can see from my e-nail address the number 333 has been a part of my life since childhood. I wake up at night and look at my clock just in time to see the #'s change from 332 to 333. This happens about 3-5 nights a week. During the day I'll check the time for no reason and it happens on every clock from bank time and temperature to dash clocks. I'll even notice, as if alerted subconsciously, addresses on buildings I am passing for the first time. It has appeared in so many movies I've lost count. (check out M. Broadrick's home address in the film "Wargames") The number of times this pops up in films is too long to list. I can't help thinking that there has to be some significance if it showed up in the trailer for this movie too. Since there is no reference to it, only it's subliminal flash, I was wondering if anyone else knows about, or has been effected by "333" please e-mail me. THX

I dont care what the film content is,as long as Milla is in it i'll watch it.

In a way its a bit of a shame the only way the world public at large are made aware of the all to real subject of Alien Abduction is by watching it at the movies with all the special effects and atmospheric music and photogenic actors portraying supposed true to life accounts in a hollywood box office formula. It might be a great movie to watch for the entertainment value; but I think it does not help to see a subject lie this given the hollywood touch. Skeptics pride themselves on relying on supposed facts. UFO sites and researchers would do well to keep well clear of hollywood if they want to be taken seriously.

Oh GOD... I would be on the floor right now laughing hysterically were it not for the irritating screeching and screams in this trailer. The instant the movie brought in "Sumerican writing" I knew there was not a thread of truth to it. Yes - the abduction situation must be taken seriously. But, this is yet another silly entertainment that will not even be discussed beyond this ufodigest forum.
Save your money: rent it for free when it shows up at your local library.

This is a "Blair Witch" type hoax. There are only 2 web sites ""Alaska Psychiatry Journal" and one other that list this Dr. Tylers research on sleep disorders and both are suspiciously vacant with no contact info.; Both domain searches produced creation dates of these websites as AUGUST 2009 by "go daddy.com", probably created by the movies promotion company.

http://alaskapsychiatryjournal.org/entries/Dr-Abigail-Tyler-Bio.html

This is just a money spinner. Even if it was based on true events, it goes to show how such a subject has to be packaged and presented to the masses in the form of a @#%$#@ hollywood movie; where over dramatisation and special effects acccompanied by chilling atmospheric music give people their buck's worth of entertainment. It may prove to be a great movie at the box office, but it also blurs a serious subject with entertainment which will only serve to make the masses as well as the censored media & news outlets treat the whole subject with even more apathy than they already do; not to mention allow the closed minded skeptics to mock any ufolist groups stupid enough to use a box office movie as a platform to base their arguments & opinionS on. Ultimately this will only serve to de-sensitize people to an otherwise serious subject, which will get five minutes mention on Entertainment Tonight.

See the evidence about Close Encounters of the Fourth Kind that the UFO Community does not want you to see.
http://ce4research.com
http://vimeo.com/5902168

Lets look at this objectively for a second.

Can anyone find any reports/evidence/articles/video on Dr. Abigail Tyler's case study on Nome, Alaska? That would help clear up whether or not this is based on true events.

If said evidence is independent of or predates the production of the movie... all the better.

I want to know whether or not it's real as well because those 'greys' give me such an irrational scare that I have to wonder, 'Have they?'. I want to know if it's true.

Besides, what's the worst that can happen? The movie is out so it won't be half as incindiary as it would be if say... it appeared on Oprah but it will give some life to the search for proof. If it's fake like 'Incident at Lake County' then it'll be laughed at and forgotten, and such search for proof will be no better off than before.

So please, if you can, find something. Find it now.

There are always pros and cons when it comes to the ET UFO Community but this is a movie based on a script. I have some reservations about the authenticity based on the following at the end of the trailer. 1. Alien Project Blogs, aggregated abduction research destination. 2. Abduct.omc - The world's oldest and largest Alien Abduction and Research destination. 3. UFO Casebook - Case files that document abductions. 4. The Journal of Regression Therapy can help abductees.

One notices 4 key elements or listings on the end of the trailer. Is this the only 4 elements used? Inquiring minds will want to know.

Again, this "FEAR" that we are speaking of in the prior comments to mine seems to be the "FUN ENTERTAINMENT" factor for the movie goers. This feeling and emotion has always been a control factor of beings on this planet.

I fear that the population of movie goers will believe this to be factual truth based on the way the movie is presented by the marketing and promotions departments of the major production staff for purposes of the box office sales of tickets. This doesn't have much to do with the education of the critical mass populace or does it? Only time will tell.

As far as who we are in the ET UFO Community, we still have our own little clicks and belief systems.

It boils down to our own perceptions of how we choose to make choices about our world and universe.

At least, those of us who choose to share our own ideas, theories, and perceptions about the "Game of Life" in the ET UFO Community that frequents the Dirk Vander Ploeg creation of ten or more years called the UFO Digest.com are aware that this is an e-magazine that allows us to share our own points of view and occasional articles.

We may not all agree and choose to debate our differences but we do not dwell on the "Fear Factor." This may be what separates us from those who choose only to believe what they can see, hear, taste, touch, smell and feel.

There is now as of 9-9-09 the fear factor to contend with of Abbuctees as a valid emotion.

Then there are the Contactees which is a total opposite end almost spiritual gratification from those entities we call extraterrestrials.

The various levels may be something that we should continue sharing in the future by others who have various ways to interpret their own theories.

No two or us are exactly alike inside or out other than we were all born and will die. Maybe this movie is more about what is really at the heart of our existence. Fear of the unknown.

TJ

9/8/2009
As someone who has had a childhood ufo abduction investigated by the late Dr. J. Allen Hynek, then after my teenage years when I joined the United States Marine Corps, where I was subjected to being taken with 11 other Marines to a desert location where a UFO was housed in a jet hangar, and there was military personnel interacting with alien beings, and these two groups working side by side on a UFO, this film if anything will bring to the attention of the public at large, that there has been contact that I know of since 1964/67. The question now is will the public DEMAND full disclosure!

It’s a freakin movie people. Don’t be so paranoid. Not everything is a clandestine attack on your minds. See it or don’t but don’t crucify it just from a 60 second trailer. I have to be honest some of you are scaring me.

"We are part of a symbiotic relationship with something which disguises itself as an extra-terrestrial invasion so as not to alarm us." -Terrence McKenna

Gotta see this film,Ill rent it for sure, anything with Milla Jovovich will be "mesmerizing" lol.. she was great in the 5th element, and even UltraViolet! Leave it to Hollywood to really SEX UP the UFO films.

It is a fact that the makers of the movie are delinberately HOAXING the public by saying the movie is based on authetic cases. They are doing this to lure the "want to believe" types into seeing a movie that is complete fiction. You don't have to go to the movie to see this as the PROMOTIONAL CLAIMS of the movie producers has already proven to be a hoax.

Don't go to see the movie unless you think it is okay for corporations to lie to the public to lure people into purchasing their product.

1) This is just a movie-so much anger. What for?
2) Linda, people everywhere are abducted: Brazil, Canada, UK, Russia, Australia, even Africa. Your comments are uninformed and a tad pedestrian "believe what they want to believe"...congrats on generalizing. The universe is more complicated than that--sorry, just my bored American mind noticing your flawed logic.
3) This movie is about "scare" first to make money, but hopefully it can stir up honest discussion
4) It's sad that a fake movie is needed to create even a discussion in public.
5) Back to Linda--even if it was mostly Americans, lets remember America tested numerous nukes above ground in the US. Fallout maybe? A need to manipulate the American cultural views? Perhaps the vague rumor of a "deal" of US citizens for alien tech by the US military? An interest in controlling America for nefarious purposes? Who knows?

Dr. Abigail Tyler is surely a pseudonym. Googling that name only provides results relating to this film. It doesn't matter what her real name is though because there are plenty of other hypnotherapists who regress abductees.

Hopefully this is not a hoax because if it is there are going to be a lot of pissed off people - especially those who are real abductees.

I'm really looking forward to seeing this film!

There have been major studies concerning abductions, and plenty of case files. All testimony is nearly idendtical. This isn't part of the movie it is FACT! Do your own reasearch before you start shooting down a film that isn't even out yet. Sure there is bound to be some movie propaganda, but you have to remember it is Hollywood. So if your just going to bash it because of what you saw in a movie trailer, then you shouldn't even bother posting. Just turn a blind eye, pick up your bible and go read at your local coffee shop. If you want to disprove some aspects of the movie then do research...

Greetings,
Information is the key here, there and everywhere. We are continually being told to think of something outside the box. (at the very minimum) Chance favors the prepared mind. Keep an open mind, stay positive and remember we are spiritual beings in a phyiscal body.

You don't hear about others being abducted elsewhere in the world, i.e. for instance.....Scotland, Norway, Finland, etc., etc. I just think Americans watch way too many movies and would like more excitement in their lives. People believe, what they WANT to believe.

Apparently the claims that this movie is "authentic anything" is a big hoax which is trying to use the viral marketing methods used by the "Blair Witch Project".

Looks like a big money Hollywood production company has no scrupples when it comes to exploiting the mysteries surrounding real unsolved missing persons cases to promote a flakey (and probably highly inaccurate) portrayal of "alien abductions". It wouldn't be so bad if they said it was fiction that was based on what some screen writer dreamed up after reading about an alien abduction account. But that isn't apparently "sensational enough" for this production which must be as lame as The Blair Witch Project if it needs to resort to false claims to get the viewing audience interested.

There are thousands of individuals who BELIEVE they were abducted. I certainly wouldn't call them liars, or deluded. When all is said and done, other than our own experience, all we have is the experience and word of others. I've never measured the distance to the sun. But I trust the "eyewitness testimony" of the scientists who have. Maybe they're liars, or maybe their equipment's out of calibration. Maybe all scientists are a little bit "crazy." How would I know? I could no more disprove the "testimony" of scientists than I could the word of an alien abductee.

Movies -- all fiction -- requires the observer to suspend disbelief. That is, to get the most out of the story-telling experience, we have to "pretend" it's real. Good movies make it look easy. Bad movies make it impossible. No one would disagree that "reality" is not what we think it is. The more science learns, the weirder it gets. Maybe what we need to do is learn to "suspend disbelief" when it comes to "conventional wisdom" and our own preconceptions about what's real and not real. Instead of flat out rejecting something that sounds a little crazy, maybe we need to suspend our disbelief and "pretend" for a moment that it is true. I think what I'm trying to say is, as "weird" as the times are becoming, maybe we shouldn't be so quick to write off everything that defies simple categorization. Maybe we need more categories.

I saw some trailers to this movie last week, I was all excited about it being based on true events and all that, until I heard in one trailer something about the alien text or language being sumerian!!! then i knew it was all b.$!!!!

If you have never been abducted, you have nothing to compare it to.

Refreashing in the light of hollywood films of late. Nice to see something original espically since it is based on reality.

Just hope there is more than us.....

seems to be another hollywood production involving fear to put people off truly looking into the topic.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/11872542/Alien-Within

shows what i believe to be a more honest view of alien encounters.

I look forward to listening to Linda Moulton Howe's next appearance on Coast to Coast AM where I am anticipating she will interview Dr. Abigail Tyler (played by Mila Jovovich) on these "authentic" cases of alien abduction, and Dr. Tyler's never before seen videos of the real memory regressions of authentic aliens abductees. I'm sure that they abduct their victims using those amazing "Chad drones". And that they dump the bodies in bottle cap shaped "metallic disks" that have been located using sidescan sonar on the bottom of Prudoe Bay. Really!

Is this real archival video or "real in the fantasy that is the movie" sort of real archival footage? It has been noted elsewhere that this movie seems to be trying to mimic the big success of "The Blair Witch Project" which used a lot of guillible people to promote the movie as real, which back then was perhaps at least a new way of hoaxing the public, but isn't this sort of nonsense getting a little old?

I have heard that one part of the movie IS real. Nome, Alaska does have a large number of real missing persons, but I have heard of nothing which suggests they were in fact taken by aliens.
But I guess that the feelings of those families are probably not very important compared to making money off a gullible public.

The Great Lakes Dive Company got it wrong. You make the movie first, then hoax the public as part of the marketing effort to promote the film. Not the other way around...

Ho hum. It wiil take more than a trailer to convince me that this movie portrays a real abduction or the abduction situation in general. Looks more like the typical Hollywood approach that emphasizes spectacular effects at the expense of les lurid reality.

"It scares the hell of out of me. Dirk"

Any martial arts master will tell you that the easiest way to control an opponent is to keep him/her off balance.

Any NWO master will tell you that the easiest way to keep the common masses - those useless eaters - off balance and controllable is through a constant barrage of fear-inducing stimulous (think: mass media).

So, this well-timed bit of Hollywood-esque melodrama hits the theaters Nov. 6th, and the second installment of completely misrepresented, pop-culture blather opens a couple weeks later.

Plant enough seeds of fear and some of them are bound to sprout, and in the right environment, likely thrive. . . for a while.

Your closing remark above is very telling, Dirk.